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Well, Bush/Cheney bled your country dry in the name of a phony war for 8 years, sit looking the other way while Bernie Maddoff and Lehmann Bros. went topside last year, the aftershocks hit now after they've gone, and suddenly Obama's somehow responsible?
> Well, Bush/Cheney bled your country dry in the name of a phony war for 8 > years, sit looking the other way while Bernie Maddoff and Lehmann Bros. > went topside last year, the aftershocks hit now after they've gone, and > suddenly Obama's somehow responsible?
I think it has become painfully obvious that Obama is not responsible.
Talkin Horse wrote: > "Rex" <rexdudeREMOVEANDREVERSEDOM...@liam.ur> wrote in message > news:hd337c$1ce$1@news.eternal-september.org... >> Hagar wrote: >>> ... in such a short time ...Requires no iteration ..
>>> Warning: May be too complicated for dense Liberal skulls ... >>> If mental density persists, remove rose colored Obama glasses ...
>> Well, Bush/Cheney bled your country dry in the name of a phony war for >> 8 years, sit looking the other way while Bernie Maddoff and Lehmann >> Bros. went topside last year, the aftershocks hit now after they've >> gone, and suddenly Obama's somehow responsible?
> I think it has become painfully obvious that Obama is not responsible.
Tell that to Hagar. I'd say Obama's got too much pressure to clear things up- people expect Jesus like miracles, like he'll suddenly wave a magic wand and turn 8 years of screwups around in an instant.
It's also amusing that the big corporations who keep railing against government interference come and ask the same govt. to bail them out because 'they cannot be allowed to fail'. And fat cat executives give themselves bonuses using the stimulus money that was provided by US tax payers. --
> It's also amusing that the big corporations who keep railing against > government interference come and ask the same govt. to bail them out > because 'they cannot be allowed to fail'. > And fat cat executives give themselves bonuses using the stimulus money > that was provided by US tax payers.
And as we citizens squabble among ourselves, trillions of dollars of our money vanishes.
.....But look at all we got for our money.
-- Chaos, calamity, and disorder are my brothers now.
Hagar you are just making the point that Obama had this put on his plate. The turn around will come but it will take time. Clinton, Bush and Company fucked it up and it will not be an overnite fix. I tell you one thing, it's about time the American public gets a bail out. Best way to do that is with Universal Healthcare.....
The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
“Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
news:c806ce33-f0cc-458c-b915-f08c20d4dd1c@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... Hagar you are just making the point that Obama had this put on his plate. The turn around will come but it will take time. Clinton, Bush and Company fucked it up and it will not be an overnite fix. I tell you one thing, it's about time the American public gets a bail out. Best way to do that is with Universal Healthcare..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With the trillions spent so far we could have freed the United States from dependence on oil.
Instead, we squandered the money and wound up with nothing for it.
All you have to do is look where the money went to see who is Obama's puppeteer.
-- An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. > Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just don't want it to go down that way.
RT PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
Yes, the AARP and the AMA would get EVEN RICHER if they could force the poorest among us to either buy health insurance or go to jail. This is the CHOICE and HOPE Obama that was talking about.
Living on credit ( to make housing·costs soar ever higher ) is key. God Forbid the price of houses ( or stocks ) should come back to earth !
Tighten belts ? Hell no !
Obama quintupled the price of rolling tobacco, to hit the poorest. Then he took over AIG, Fannie and Freddie... his latest lovers.
> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. > Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just don't want it to go down that way.
RT PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
*********************************** FYI: The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US. Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they felt AARP sold them out.
> > The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. > > Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> > Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> > “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> > it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. > > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> > Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
> It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it > will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those > who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out > of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and > nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It > will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just > don't want it to go down that way.
> RT > PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
> *********************************** > FYI: > The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US. > Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying > that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
> AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of > three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they > felt AARP sold them out.
I bet you and Sgall still have your AARP cards and use them for any available discounts just like you will take advantage of SS and Medicare, two Socialist programs. Universal Healthcare is coming. Buck up and accept another Socialist program when the public option is put in place.
>? >The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. >Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
>Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. >So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
>“Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: >“ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
>it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. >Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants >while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
>Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars >( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:13:42 -0800, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote: >"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:f93ebd5e-e6fa-446b-84b4-e3b74b087077@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >On Nov 7, 8:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote: >> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. >> Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
>> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. >> So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
>> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: >> “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, >> lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
>> it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. >> Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants >> while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
>> Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars >> ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
>It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it >will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those >who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out >of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and >nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It >will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just >don't want it to go down that way.
>RT >PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
> *********************************** >FYI: >The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US. >Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying >that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
>AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of >three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they >felt AARP sold them out.
> AARP admits to being a BUSINESS, Hagar! They really only want to make > MONEY!
> They will gladly sell you an auto insurance policy for DOUBLE what > GEICO will.
> It's for THEIR KICKBACK!
> I SHIT on THEM!
> Saul Levy
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:13:42 -0800, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote: > >"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:f93ebd5e-e6fa-446b-84b4-e3b74b087077@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > >On Nov 7, 8:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote: > >> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. > >> Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> >> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > >> So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> >> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > >> “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > >> lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> >> it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. > >> Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > >> while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> >> Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > >> ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
> >It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it > >will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those > >who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out > >of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and > >nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It > >will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just > >don't want it to go down that way.
> >RT > >PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
> > *********************************** > >FYI: > >The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US. > >Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying > >that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
> >AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of > >three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they > >felt AARP sold them out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah but just the same, I bet you still have your card. PUTZ!
On Nov 7, 5:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money.
Yes.
> Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
If credit became unavailable, house prices would indeed fall back to earth. So would car prices, and a lot of other things. We are living now in a false economy of credit that inevitably will collapse sooner or later.
> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
Only because so many people own houses and stocks. Now that I am no longer invested in those things, I must confess that I watch with great glee the tumbling of house prices and the DOW!
> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
And yet the current "universal healthcare system" pays for itself through excessive health insurance rates on those who carry the insurance, which might be an employer, but in many cases are the individuals themselves. There needs to be a way to broaden the base of support. The conservative approach (and I don't think there are many true conservatives around) would be to eliminate health insurance altogether so that market forces could prevail in setting the price of medicine. With that and a few other changes, believe me we would see a return to affordable health care costs. The new leaner breed of doctors would be willing to settle for a basket of eggs in payment, and might even make house calls!
> it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though,
I see companies like AIG as just skimmers!
> as is Exxon·Mobil. > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
That money can be taxed, you know . How come nobody today is interested in a confiscatory windfall profits tax like we had back in the 70's? Unlike criminal laws, taxes can and have been imposed retroactively too!
> Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
Of course if you take away that money, the yaught and yaught service industry (Brad) will suffer.
> > The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. > > Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> > Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> > “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> > it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. > > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> > Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
> It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it > will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those > who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out > of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and > nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It > will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just > don't want it to go down that way.
> RT > PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
> *********************************** > FYI: > The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US. > Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying > that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
> AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of > three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they > felt AARP sold them out.
I bet you and Sgall still have your AARP cards and use them for any available discounts just like you will take advantage of SS and Medicare, two Socialist programs. Universal Healthcare is coming. Buck up and accept another Socialist program when the public option is put in place.
****************************************** Never belonged to AARP. Paid into SS all of my life and I'll gladly take all of what I paid into the bankrupt system in a lump sum payment and be done with it. Ditto for Medicare. We paid for it, but now you loser dicks accuse us of scamming the system ?? Unlike you leeches, we would have much rather invested the money ourselves and taken the proceeds/losses, rather than having the Nigger totally fuck it up. It just shows how brainwashed you retarded loons are. You need Nanny care ... real men don't.
> AARP admits to being a BUSINESS, Hagar! They really only want to make > MONEY!
> They will gladly sell you an auto insurance policy for DOUBLE what > GEICO will.
> It's for THEIR KICKBACK!
> I SHIT on THEM!
> Saul Levy
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:13:42 -0800, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote: > >"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:f93ebd5e-e6fa-446b-84b4-e3b74b087077@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > >On Nov 7, 8:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote: > >> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. > >> Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> >> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > >> So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> >> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > >> “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > >> lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> >> it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. > >> Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > >> while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> >> Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > >> ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
> >It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it > >will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those > >who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out > >of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and > >nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It > >will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just > >don't want it to go down that way.
> >RT > >PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
> > *********************************** > >FYI: > >The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US. > >Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying > >that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
> >AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of > >three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they > >felt AARP sold them out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah but just the same, I bet you still have your card. PUTZ!
RT ********************************** Believe it or not, dickhead, some of us are still capable surviving without freebies from the Government or any other support groups. You losers couldn't function without a nanny union or federal mandate to pay you monies you don't deserve. Teachers who can't spell and are grammatically incompetent should not be able to retire, compliments of the public till.
> On Nov 7, 5:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
> > The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money.
> Yes.
> > Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> If credit became unavailable, house prices would indeed fall back to > earth. So would car prices, and a lot of other things. We are living > now in a false economy of credit that inevitably will collapse sooner > or later.
> > Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> Only because so many people own houses and stocks. Now that I am no > longer invested in those things, I must confess that I watch with > great glee the tumbling of house prices and the DOW!
> > “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> And yet the current "universal healthcare system" pays for itself > through excessive health insurance rates on those who carry the > insurance, which might be an employer, but in many cases are the > individuals themselves. There needs to be a way to broaden the base > of support. The conservative approach (and I don't think there are > many true conservatives around) would be to eliminate health insurance > altogether so that market forces could prevail in setting the price of > medicine. With that and a few other changes, believe me we would see > a return to affordable health care costs. The new leaner breed of > doctors would be willing to settle for a basket of eggs in payment, > and might even make house calls!
> > it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though,
> I see companies like AIG as just skimmers!
> > as is Exxon·Mobil. > > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> That money can be taxed, you know . How come nobody today is > interested in a confiscatory windfall profits tax like we had back in > the 70's? Unlike criminal laws, taxes can and have been imposed > retroactively too!
> > Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
> Of course if you take away that money, the yaught and yaught service > industry (Brad) will suffer.
> Double-A
Only the middle and upper class boating/yachting has suffered, whereas the truly rich, powerful and kosher approved types have only recently gotten richer and more powerful.
In California there are still residential garages worth more than most PNW yachts. PNW family boating got screwed as of before 9/11. Most uncovered moorage will now cost you nearly what the monthly cost of what the boat is worth, and covered moorage can easily run 1+ times the monthly cost of buying your boat/yacht.
Less than 10% of private boat/yacht owners can truly afford the fuel they burn, and much less to properly maintain their equipment.
AARP is even MORE A COMMIE-PINKO ORGANIZATION than ObaMAO is, Hagar! Hard to believe, huh?
They charge DOUBLE for auto-insurance (compared to GEICO) so they get a BIG KICKBACK! This is NOT capitalism either! It's just GREED! One of ObaMAO's CZARS couldn't come up with that one! Isn't insurance too expensive now? I always thought so.
They also VOTE for EVERY FUCKING SOCIALIST PROGRAM the government can make up! They pushed the healthcare bill too.
I tell them with every mailout that I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM! I WILL NEVER JOIN THEM.
>I bet you and Sgall still have your AARP cards and use them for any >available discounts just like you will take advantage of SS and >Medicare, two Socialist programs. Universal Healthcare is coming. Buck >up and accept another Socialist program when the public option is put >in place.
> ****************************************** >Never belonged to AARP. Paid into SS all of my life and I'll gladly take >all of what I paid into the bankrupt system in a lump sum payment and >be done with it. Ditto for Medicare. We paid for it, but now you loser >dicks accuse us of scamming the system ?? >Unlike you leeches, we would have much rather invested the money >ourselves and taken the proceeds/losses, rather than having the Nigger >totally fuck it up. It just shows how brainwashed you retarded loons are. >You need Nanny care ... real men don't.
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:12:24 -0800, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote: >"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:90a38fd9-78c3-42c9-bb97-8cecac7c6817@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >On Nov 7, 1:38 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote: >> AARP admits to being a BUSINESS, Hagar! They really only want to make >> MONEY!
>> They will gladly sell you an auto insurance policy for DOUBLE what >> GEICO will.
>> It's for THEIR KICKBACK!
>> I SHIT on THEM!
>> Saul Levy
>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:13:42 -0800, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote: >> >"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >news:f93ebd5e-e6fa-446b-84b4-e3b74b087077@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >> >On Nov 7, 8:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote: >> >> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money. >> >> Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
>> >> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. >> >> So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
>> >> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: >> >> “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, >> >> lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
>> >> it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil. >> >> Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants >> >> while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
>> >> Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars >> >> ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
>> >It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it >> >will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those >> >who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out >> >of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and >> >nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It >> >will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just >> >don't want it to go down that way.
>> >RT >> >PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
>> > *********************************** >> >FYI: >> >The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US. >> >Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying >> >that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
>> >AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of >> >three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they >> >felt AARP sold them out.
>Yeah, yeah, yeah but just the same, I bet you still have your card. >PUTZ!
>RT > ********************************** >Believe it or not, dickhead, some of us are still capable surviving >without freebies from the Government or any other support groups. >You losers couldn't function without a nanny union or federal >mandate to pay you monies you don't deserve. Teachers who can't >spell and are grammatically incompetent should not be able to retire, >compliments of the public till.
> On Nov 7, 1:47 pm, Double-A <double...@hush.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 5:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
> > > The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money.
> > Yes.
> > > Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
> > If credit became unavailable, house prices would indeed fall back to > > earth. So would car prices, and a lot of other things. We are living > > now in a false economy of credit that inevitably will collapse sooner > > or later.
> > > Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't. > > > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
> > Only because so many people own houses and stocks. Now that I am no > > longer invested in those things, I must confess that I watch with > > great glee the tumbling of house prices and the DOW!
> > > “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for: > > > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes, > > > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
> > And yet the current "universal healthcare system" pays for itself > > through excessive health insurance rates on those who carry the > > insurance, which might be an employer, but in many cases are the > > individuals themselves. There needs to be a way to broaden the base > > of support. The conservative approach (and I don't think there are > > many true conservatives around) would be to eliminate health insurance > > altogether so that market forces could prevail in setting the price of > > medicine. With that and a few other changes, believe me we would see > > a return to affordable health care costs. The new leaner breed of > > doctors would be willing to settle for a basket of eggs in payment, > > and might even make house calls!
> > > it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though,
> > I see companies like AIG as just skimmers!
> > > as is Exxon·Mobil. > > > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants > > > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
> > That money can be taxed, you know . How come nobody today is > > interested in a confiscatory windfall profits tax like we had back in > > the 70's? Unlike criminal laws, taxes can and have been imposed > > retroactively too!
> > > Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars > > > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
> > Of course if you take away that money, the yaught and yaught service > > industry (Brad) will suffer.
> > Double-A
> Only the middle and upper class boating/yachting has suffered, whereas > the truly rich, powerful and kosher approved types have only recently > gotten richer and more powerful.
> In California there are still residential garages worth more than most > PNW yachts. PNW family boating got screwed as of before 9/11. Most > uncovered moorage will now cost you nearly what the monthly cost of > what the boat is worth, and covered moorage can easily run 1+ times > the monthly cost of buying your boat/yacht.
> Less than 10% of private boat/yacht owners can truly afford the fuel > they burn, and much less to properly maintain their equipment.
> ~ BG
They say there are two happiest days in a boat owner's life: The day he buys the boat, and the day he sells the boat!
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