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Glazier) wrote: >To ya all I must try to convince those that are hostile to our Darla to >keep in mind we all could be aliens to our Earth. That is the format to >my novel Stepping Stones that I wrote with the help of Sunbeam.over 40 >years ago. Darla loves this planet. She loves us as shown by her >compassion to those that put her down and make fun of her Darla is to >be loved and cherished. I love her clever mind. Bert
> Darla i'm laughing because you mentioned "Titan" and I was going to do > a "What if" on Saturn's largest satellite. I'm interested in its thick > dense atmosphere. Reminds me of Venus being its surface is not seen > because of its thick gases. I read its atmosphere is mostly nitrogen. > Its the only satellite with a "sky" But being so very far from the Sun > Titan has to be so cold and hostile to life. Darla could you please > tell us your knowledge on Titan ? Bert
I wish I could transfer all our known data on Titan to you, Bert. One of the best things for humans about Titan is an OIL-like substance you will find there. And that is only the beginning! Some things found on Titan are better even than oil! Your wildest imaginings will often fall short of Titan's realities. Learn all you can about Titan, dear friend Bert, for that will all be in your genes when next you trample the faces of Earth and other orbs.
-- **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics Be well and come, be welcome. You are the fifth star!
> > > > Too bad that Darla died in an INSANE ASYLUM two weeks ago, LIAR B! > > > > lmfjao!
> > > > She thought she was an ALIEN!
> > > > Saul Levy
> > > No, not at all, Saul. > > > I've lived here on "your" planet far too long to call myself an ALIEN.
> > > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth > > > > <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) > > > >>wrote: > > > >>> Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have > > > >>> tried. > > > >>> I > > > >>> am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from > > > >>> Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
> > > Bert, dearest one! > > > Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected. > > > After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived. > > > Haven't checked the email since we returned. > > > I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss > > > terribly. > > > Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
> > > >>No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
> > > >> ~ BG
> > > Oh, my dear Brad! > > > When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul > > > actually > > > likes you? > > > (Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.) > > > If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you. > > > Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your eyes. > > > And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way. > > > Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together? > > > A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's > > > eyes!
> > > -- > > > Darla
> > Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen, > > even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent > > bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro- > > status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as > > forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective > > evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic.
> > Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between > > the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on > > my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra > > smart, so what happened in your case?
> > btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we > > humans clearly do not. > > ~ BG
> > Nothing belongs here - everything belongs here. > > I was not born here, and yet I claim Earth as my home. > > You do belong here, Brad! > > Humans just need to take better care of their home.
> > -- > > Darla
> The last few thousand years proves that modern (supposedly > intelligent) humans are either unwilling and/or incapable of taking > care of this frail Eden/Earth.
> Eventually we'll need a larger and more resource substantial planet to > destroy. In the mean time, how about we screw with Venus?
> ~ BG
> There are already several people who see the good in taking care of Earth, > and they are taking forward strides to do so. > More of you should get involved with this. > It is the only home you know. > In fact, at least at present, Earth is the only home you have. > And Earth is far less "frail" than one may think it is. > You should be very thankful for that.
> Venus, Mars, the Moon all contain resources that humans will eventually > need > and utilize. > Even the Sun will eventually be utilized more efficiently and effectively. > And Titan! > You all will absolutely adore Titan! > It's a good candidate to be a base when you're ready to explore beyond the > confines of your Solar System.
> -- > Darla
Titan at best is many decades away from our even getting any such mission underway, plus at least another decade after that before parking any humans butts on Titan. The cost for such would likely be in the realm of at least $100+B if not a trillion hard earned dollars for accomplishing that first human expedition and exploration phase of Titan, establishing that base camp for others wealthy enough and young enough to follow.
If we had to make a faster move as of today, keeping within our known technology or most likely advancements in such off-world capability, which of the other planets or moons (including Selene) would be worth considering?
~ BG
Every one you can see, and some you haven't seen yet. Even the asteroids hold significant water, Brad.
-- **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics Be well and come, be welcome. You are the fifth star!
> Have you seen the V series? You'd LOVE IT! lmfjao!
> They want to EAT ALL HUMANS! You admitted to once doing the same.
> You're still living in an INSANE ASYLUM, aren't you?
> Saul Levy
Of course I've seen the V series, well the old one at least. And some of the afterbirth of the starchild, too.
I have NEVER admitted to such a thing, Saul, no never. I am NOT an eater of meat of any kind. Haven't eaten meat since I was a young child learning how to battle. That was long before primates came to evolve here.
I can't say the same for all my species, though. Even now every once in awhile we capture those who would poach humans. Usually as they go in. Not to worry, though, for you have a better chance of being devoured by flesh-eating beetles than by a sean.
Right now, I'm living in the Oceania asylum, stretching myself off the coast of Sydney. Have you ever been to the Blue Mtns. just outside of Sydney, Australia? Mmmmmmm!
-- **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics Be well and come, be welcome. You are the fifth star!
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:23:17 -0500, "Darla" <darlap...@aol.com> wrote:
>>A citizen arms himself with wisdom. >>A subject arms himself with other subjects.
Hmm, I'd say more like that of whales, Saul. Porpoises are smart, very intelligent, yes. Whales hold the wisdom of the ages. When humans learn to communicate with them, much will be learned about Earth's past. And many surprises are in store!
-- **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics Be well and come, be welcome. You are the fifth star!
> To ya all I must try to convince those that are hostile to our Darla to > keep in mind we all could be aliens to our Earth. That is the format to > my novel Stepping Stones that I wrote with the help of Sunbeam.over 40 > years ago. Darla loves this planet. She loves us as shown by her > compassion to those that put her down and make fun of her Darla is to > be loved and cherished. I love her clever mind. Bert
And I yours, gravity man!
-- **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics Be well and come, be welcome. You are the fifth star!
> > > > >>On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) > > > > >>wrote: > > > > >>> Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have > > > > >>> tried. > > > > >>> I > > > > >>> am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from > > > > >>> Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
> > > > Bert, dearest one! > > > > Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected. > > > > After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived. > > > > Haven't checked the email since we returned. > > > > I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss > > > > terribly. > > > > Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
> > > > >>No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
> > > > >> ~ BG
> > > > Oh, my dear Brad! > > > > When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul > > > > actually > > > > likes you? > > > > (Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.) > > > > If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you. > > > > Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your eyes. > > > > And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way. > > > > Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together? > > > > A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's > > > > eyes!
> > > > -- > > > > Darla
> > > Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen, > > > even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent > > > bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro- > > > status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as > > > forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective > > > evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic.
> > > Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between > > > the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on > > > my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra > > > smart, so what happened in your case?
> > > btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we > > > humans clearly do not. > > > ~ BG
> > > Nothing belongs here - everything belongs here. > > > I was not born here, and yet I claim Earth as my home. > > > You do belong here, Brad! > > > Humans just need to take better care of their home.
> > > -- > > > Darla
> > The last few thousand years proves that modern (supposedly > > intelligent) humans are either unwilling and/or incapable of taking > > care of this frail Eden/Earth.
> > Eventually we'll need a larger and more resource substantial planet to > > destroy. In the mean time, how about we screw with Venus?
> > ~ BG
> > There are already several people who see the good in taking care of Earth, > > and they are taking forward strides to do so. > > More of you should get involved with this. > > It is the only home you know. > > In fact, at least at present, Earth is the only home you have. > > And Earth is far less "frail" than one may think it is. > > You should be very thankful for that.
> > Venus, Mars, the Moon all contain resources that humans will eventually > > need > > and utilize. > > Even the Sun will eventually be utilized more efficiently and effectively. > > And Titan! > > You all will absolutely adore Titan! > > It's a good candidate to be a base when you're ready to explore beyond the > > confines of your Solar System.
> > -- > > Darla
> Titan at best is many decades away from our even getting any such > mission underway, plus at least another decade after that before > parking any humans butts on Titan. The cost for such would likely be > in the realm of at least $100+B if not a trillion hard earned dollars > for accomplishing that first human expedition and exploration phase of > Titan, establishing that base camp for others wealthy enough and young > enough to follow.
> If we had to make a faster move as of today, keeping within our known > technology or most likely advancements in such off-world capability, > which of the other planets or moons (including Selene) would be worth > considering?
> ~ BG
> Every one you can see, and some you haven't seen yet. > Even the asteroids hold significant water, Brad.
> -- > **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics > Be well and come, be welcome. > You are the fifth star!
I agree, in that deep enough within our Selene/moon should be geode pockets or cavernous layers of water, or at least mineral brines that have never been exposed to that 3e-15 bar vacuum of local space.
How about our 2nd moon Cruithne: (other than a few ppm sequestered within its bedrock, does Cruithne got water?)
Darla Very interesting that Titan has a oily surface. Maybe nitrogen as a liquid on top of its frozen surface. Here on Earth water on ice makes it very slippery. I know Titan is bigger than Mercury,but not how much bigger. That it orbits pretty fast(about 16 days) from a distance of about 800,000 miles. Voyager 2 took some nice pictures. Its nitrogen reflects back blue light,and we have another blue marble in our solar system. Your virtual friend till the end Bert.
On Nov 6, 5:34 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
> Darla Very interesting that Titan has a oily surface. Maybe nitrogen as > a liquid on top of its frozen surface. Here on Earth water on ice makes > it very slippery. I know Titan is bigger than Mercury,but not how much > bigger. That it orbits pretty fast(about 16 days) from a distance of > about 800,000 miles. Voyager 2 took some nice pictures. Its nitrogen > reflects back blue light,and we have another blue marble in our solar > system. Your virtual friend till the end Bert.
Too bad we don't even have the necessary technology or the resources to exploit our semi-hollow Selene/moon. Good Christ almighty on a stick, we can't even exploit our Selene/moon L1, much less the extremely nearby planet Venus that only a little over 100 times further than our moon every 19 months.
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:44:53 -0500, "Darla" <darlap...@aol.com> wrote: >"Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message >news:49cne5tacsmg1ihp3ijq0mkiku96mfgeub@4ax.com... >> Too bad that Darla died in an INSANE ASYLUM two weeks ago, LIAR B! >> lmfjao!
>> She thought she was an ALIEN!
>> Saul Levy
>No, not at all, Saul. >I've lived here on "your" planet far too long to call myself an ALIEN. >Bert, dearest one! >Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected. >After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived. >Haven't checked the email since we returned. >I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss terribly. >Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed. >Oh, my dear Brad! >When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul actually >likes you? >(Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.) >If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you. >Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your eyes. >And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way. >Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together? >A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's eyes!
>> > Too bad that Darla died in an INSANE ASYLUM two weeks ago, LIAR B! >> > lmfjao!
>> > She thought she was an ALIEN!
>> > Saul Levy
>> No, not at all, Saul. >> I've lived here on "your" planet far too long to call myself an ALIEN.
>> > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth >> > <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote: >> >>> Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have tried. I >> >>> am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from >> >>> Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
>> Bert, dearest one! >> Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected. >> After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived. >> Haven't checked the email since we returned. >> I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss terribly. >> Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
>> >>No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
>> >> ~ BG
>> Oh, my dear Brad! >> When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul actually >> likes you? >> (Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.) >> If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you. >> Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your eyes. >> And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way. >> Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together? >> A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's eyes!
>> -- >> Darla
>Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen, >even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent >bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro- >status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as >forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective >evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic.
>Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between >the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on >my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra >smart, so what happened in your case?
>btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we >humans clearly do not. > ~ BG
> > > > > > > I see you're off to a bad start.........
> > > > > > > > Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected. > > > > > > > > After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have > > > > > > > > lived.
> > > > > > > Oh Christ! You're not another one of those "Everybody look at > > > > > > > ME becuase *I'm* from another planet" retards are you?
> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
> > > > > > You do realize that Darla is Jewish, don't you?
> > > > > So are Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny, but so > > > > > what?
> > > > > > Darla seems Einstein smart enough, and unlike yourself is > > > > > > willing to > > > > > > share without being an asshole about it. But then you and others > > > > > > of > > > > > > your kind would have treated Einstein like shit if you didn't > > > > > > already > > > > > > know he was a Jewish god. Now that you know better, perhaps you > > > > > > shouldn't give Darla the usual topic/author stalking and > > > > > > systematic > > > > > > bashings.
> > > > > > ~ BG
> > > > > Brad, do you think all Jews are descended fro aliens?
> > > > > Double-A
> > > > That would certainly make a whole lot of better sense than most any > > > > other story of woe that you and most others can think of. In fact, > > > > most of us and at least some of our biodiversity are likely derived > > > > via directed panspermia if not intentionally transplanted from other > > > > older colonizations that couldn't possibly have originated here on > > > > Earth, that is unless there were highly advanced terrestrial > > > > civilizations prior to our ice-age traumatized world having > > > > encountered an icy Selene.
> > > > ~ BG > > > > ******************************** > > > > Say, are you related to Ed Conrad ??? > > > > He was the resident lunatic with his "man older than coal" crapola, > > > > but you just leap-frogged over him ... your "Luna" theory is, well > > > > ... > > > > Lunacy ...
> > > Ed's stuff has been confirmed as 100% every bit as real as coal that's > > > <280 MYO, except biologically human like.
> > > However, those last ice-age humans as of 13000+ BP didn't seem to have > > > a seasonal tilt or any benefit of moonlight to help get them through > > > those icy cold nighttimes. Going back further then the last ice-age, > > > through those many extreme ice-ages before, and who knows how those > > > extremely survival tough humans ever managed to propagate faster than > > > they were being eaten alive and/or frozen to death.
> > > ~ BG
> > The seasonal tilt at 13000 BP was the same as now, except rotated by > > 180 degrees, and the Moon was about where it is now too. The real > > question is how Homo sapiens successfully competed with the > > Neanderthals who were seemingly better adapted to colder climates.
> > Double-A
> Funny story.
> Show craft/art work of that era that depicts seasons, human seasonal > migrations or moon.
> ~ BG
Would a Neanderthal family photo album do?
Double-A
******************************** GuthBall could just send you a family picture ....
> > > > >>On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) > > > > >>wrote: > > > > >>> Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have > > > > >>> tried. > > > > >>> I > > > > >>> am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from > > > > >>> Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
> > > > Bert, dearest one! > > > > Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected. > > > > After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived. > > > > Haven't checked the email since we returned. > > > > I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss > > > > terribly. > > > > Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
> > > > >>No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
> > > > >> ~ BG
> > > > Oh, my dear Brad! > > > > When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul > > > > actually > > > > likes you? > > > > (Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.) > > > > If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you. > > > > Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your > > > > eyes. > > > > And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way. > > > > Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together? > > > > A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's > > > > eyes!
> > > > -- > > > > Darla
> > > Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen, > > > even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent > > > bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro- > > > status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as > > > forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective > > > evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic.
> > > Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between > > > the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on > > > my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra > > > smart, so what happened in your case?
> > > btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we > > > humans clearly do not. > > > ~ BG
> > > Nothing belongs here - everything belongs here. > > > I was not born here, and yet I claim Earth as my home. > > > You do belong here, Brad! > > > Humans just need to take better care of their home.
> > > -- > > > Darla
> > The last few thousand years proves that modern (supposedly > > intelligent) humans are either unwilling and/or incapable of taking > > care of this frail Eden/Earth.
> > Eventually we'll need a larger and more resource substantial planet to > > destroy. In the mean time, how about we screw with Venus?
> > ~ BG
> > There are already several people who see the good in taking care of > > Earth, > > and they are taking forward strides to do so. > > More of you should get involved with this. > > It is the only home you know. > > In fact, at least at present, Earth is the only home you have. > > And Earth is far less "frail" than one may think it is. > > You should be very thankful for that.
> > Venus, Mars, the Moon all contain resources that humans will eventually > > need > > and utilize. > > Even the Sun will eventually be utilized more efficiently and > > effectively. > > And Titan! > > You all will absolutely adore Titan! > > It's a good candidate to be a base when you're ready to explore beyond > > the > > confines of your Solar System.
> > -- > > Darla
> Titan at best is many decades away from our even getting any such > mission underway, plus at least another decade after that before > parking any humans butts on Titan. The cost for such would likely be > in the realm of at least $100+B if not a trillion hard earned dollars > for accomplishing that first human expedition and exploration phase of > Titan, establishing that base camp for others wealthy enough and young > enough to follow.
> If we had to make a faster move as of today, keeping within our known > technology or most likely advancements in such off-world capability, > which of the other planets or moons (including Selene) would be worth > considering?
> ~ BG
> Every one you can see, and some you haven't seen yet. > Even the asteroids hold significant water, Brad.
> -- > **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics > Be well and come, be welcome. > You are the fifth star!
I agree, in that deep enough within our Selene/moon should be geode pockets or cavernous layers of water, or at least mineral brines that have never been exposed to that 3e-15 bar vacuum of local space.
How about our 2nd moon Cruithne: (other than a few ppm sequestered within its bedrock, does Cruithne got water?)
~ BG
D.... Yes! Even planet Mercury has pockets of water. It's density allows this even so close to the Sun. Finding water on other celestial bodies is the least of human challenges.
-- **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics Be well and come, be welcome. You are the fifth star!
> > > > > >>On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) > > > > > >>wrote: > > > > > >>> Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have > > > > > >>> tried. > > > > > >>> I > > > > > >>> am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from > > > > > >>> Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
> > > > > Bert, dearest one! > > > > > Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected. > > > > > After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived. > > > > > Haven't checked the email since we returned. > > > > > I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss > > > > > terribly. > > > > > Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
> > > > > >>No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
> > > > > >> ~ BG
> > > > > Oh, my dear Brad! > > > > > When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul > > > > > actually > > > > > likes you? > > > > > (Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.) > > > > > If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you. > > > > > Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your > > > > > eyes. > > > > > And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way. > > > > > Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together? > > > > > A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's > > > > > eyes!
> > > > > -- > > > > > Darla
> > > > Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen, > > > > even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent > > > > bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro- > > > > status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as > > > > forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective > > > > evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic.
> > > > Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between > > > > the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on > > > > my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra > > > > smart, so what happened in your case?
> > > > btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we > > > > humans clearly do not. > > > > ~ BG
> > > > Nothing belongs here - everything belongs here. > > > > I was not born here, and yet I claim Earth as my home. > > > > You do belong here, Brad! > > > > Humans just need to take better care of their home.
> > > > -- > > > > Darla
> > > The last few thousand years proves that modern (supposedly > > > intelligent) humans are either unwilling and/or incapable of taking > > > care of this frail Eden/Earth.
> > > Eventually we'll need a larger and more resource substantial planet to > > > destroy. In the mean time, how about we screw with Venus?
> > > ~ BG
> > > There are already several people who see the good in taking care of > > > Earth, > > > and they are taking forward strides to do so. > > > More of you should get involved with this. > > > It is the only home you know. > > > In fact, at least at present, Earth is the only home you have. > > > And Earth is far less "frail" than one may think it is. > > > You should be very thankful for that.
> > > Venus, Mars, the Moon all contain resources that humans will eventually > > > need > > > and utilize. > > > Even the Sun will eventually be utilized more efficiently and > > > effectively. > > > And Titan! > > > You all will absolutely adore Titan! > > > It's a good candidate to be a base when you're ready to explore beyond > > > the > > > confines of your Solar System.
> > > -- > > > Darla
> > Titan at best is many decades away from our even getting any such > > mission underway, plus at least another decade after that before > > parking any humans butts on Titan. The cost for such would likely be > > in the realm of at least $100+B if not a trillion hard earned dollars > > for accomplishing that first human expedition and exploration phase of > > Titan, establishing that base camp for others wealthy enough and young > > enough to follow.
> > If we had to make a faster move as of today, keeping within our known > > technology or most likely advancements in such off-world capability, > > which of the other planets or moons (including Selene) would be worth > > considering?
> > ~ BG
> > Every one you can see, and some you haven't seen yet. > > Even the asteroids hold significant water, Brad.
> > -- > > **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics > > Be well and come, be welcome. > > You are the fifth star!
> I agree, in that deep enough within our Selene/moon should be geode > pockets or cavernous layers of water, or at least mineral brines that > have never been exposed to that 3e-15 bar vacuum of local space.
> How about our 2nd moon Cruithne: (other than a few ppm sequestered > within its bedrock, does Cruithne got water?)
> ~ BG
> D.... > Yes! > Even planet Mercury has pockets of water. > It's density allows this even so close to the Sun. > Finding water on other celestial bodies is the least of human challenges.
> -- > **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics > Be well and come, be welcome. > You are the fifth star!
Unfortunately, our terrestrial fresh water is anything but fresh enough or available enough to safely and affordably feed and water 1e10 souls, because there's either not enough fresh water where it's needed or there's way too much fresh water where is isn't needed, and most other water on Earth is getting saltier, acidic and oxygen starved (latest accounting of ocean dead zones are at 250,000 km2 and growing), and ocean diatoms are clearly endangered.
Even much of our fresh water has become saturated with heavy minerals and toxins that our physiology isn't mutating fast enough to compensate. Terrestrial hydrocarbon forms of energy for purifying such nasty water are running low, and there's nothing significant being done that'll replace such hydrocarbons or avoid the ongoing loss of mass (hydrogen and helium <1t/sec) that our planet with its failing geomagnetic force is having to deal with, in addition to the ongoing thaw from the last ice-age this planet w/moon is ever going to see.
So, perhaps relocating a few billion souls to off-world underground places, such as within our Selene/moon isn't so far fetched. Of course thorium reactors and 3He/fusion energy as well as renewable energy alternatives (including geothermal) could save our terrestrial butts, but only if we could manage to stop warring against one another long enough to allow such to happen.
> > Your reply here shows how INSANE you really are. I can't handle > > INSANE people. . . .
> Oh, I don't know, Saul. > You handled me pretty well there awhile back. <G>
> -- > **** Darla of sci.electromagnetics > Be well and come, be welcome. > You are the fifth star!
Responding to rabbi Saul Levy is quite similar to responding to a kosher pile of horse poop. At least once dried it makes for a good form of renewable fuel.
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