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I have a question to ask, and it will be a memory-taxer for both.
When I came here a while back regarding my connection being constantly cut off, and other things. Question is: did I mention anything about the fact that my cd-rom player was not playing my music cd's? It didnt matter what player I used, I just got errors. (my default is JADaudio, followed by windows media player,,,, i even tried 'sound edit pro' because it too can play cd music.... each had its own version of an error message.)
And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the registry back 3 years fixed it?
Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the life of me remember how I fixed it. (I do remember going out and buying a brand new dvd/cd player because I thought my old one had bitten the dust, but that wasnt the problem at all.)
Is not much point posting the error msg's from the individual players, because the crux is the fact that they wont play music. (or rather, the information from the player is not reaching the software or ... etc) I am hoping that it wasnt the registry roll-back that fixed it,, dont really want to do that again.
So, here is the problem. I put in a music cd, and every one of my players comes up with 'error'. I have checked everything in 'cpl-multimedia', including 'sounds', and all is fine. Anyone know why I cant play music?
Havent d/loaded anything recently, Spybot says 'no probs', Avast says the same. I started thinking about re-installing my VIA chipset, but I know for sure that I never went that far before to fix the prob.
> And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the > registry back 3 years fixed it?
> Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the life > of me remember how I fixed it.
Not even the busiest body can be expected to remember one particular successful repair from three years ago among dozens or scores of unrelated cases.
If you and I do not keep written records of hardware and software changes to our own systems no one else will. (Big Brother might indeed be watching, but we cannot be sure of his help when we need it.)
-- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
> I have a question to ask, and it will be a memory-taxer for both.
> When I came here a while back regarding my connection being constantly > cut off, and other things. > Question is: did I mention anything about the fact that my cd-rom > player was not playing my music cd's? It didnt matter what player I > used, I just got errors. (my default is JADaudio, followed by windows > media player,,,, i even tried 'sound edit pro' because it too can play > cd music.... each had its own version of an error message.)
> And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the > registry back 3 years fixed it?
> Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the life > of me remember how I fixed it. (I do remember going out and buying a > brand new dvd/cd player because I thought my old one had bitten the > dust, but that wasnt the problem at all.)
> Is not much point posting the error msg's from the individual players, > because the crux is the fact that they wont play music. (or rather, the > information from the player is not reaching the software or ... etc) > I am hoping that it wasnt the registry roll-back that fixed it,, dont > really want to do that again.
> So, here is the problem. > I put in a music cd, and every one of my players comes up with 'error'. > I have checked everything in 'cpl-multimedia', including 'sounds', and > all is fine. > Anyone know why I cant play music?
> Havent d/loaded anything recently, Spybot says 'no probs', Avast says > the same. I started thinking about re-installing my VIA chipset, > but I know for sure that I never went that far before to fix the prob.
> S/C
Ah, presuming you are referring to the lengthy "comp keeps timing out" (starting 21/08/05, ending around 15/09/05) discussion:
NO, you didn't mention the CD player issue IIRC. Since that discussion revolved around your history of hacks, trojans, and other malware *WITHOUT a firewall and Anti-V program that provided the protection you need*; your roll back to the 3 year old malware free [or supposedly] registry (due to your 3 year old prior hacked system which you exposed in that discussion, the reason for the save of a 3 year old registry) likely fixed the issue. That does NOT mean you are free of hacks/malware, nor does it mean your system was returned to a pristine usable state. You MAY have hacked system files or some other malicious activity STILL occurring. In fact, you never indicated whether you even installed a firewall to protect you from the local phone lurkers and other...
We [the three of us, meaning PCR, you, and I] avoided the re-installation of your system, however, it appears clear you are a PRIME candidate for complete wipe/reformat and re-install. Your system files are outa-whack, may still include infected files, and may include other issues since even the 3 year old roll-backed registry AND MULTIPLY hacked system MAY still have included malware entries or other issues.
You are limping along with a system begging to crash and cause errors, might be time to actually fix it.
MEB wrote: > square/circle wrote: >> Hi good ppl,,,
>> I have a question to ask, and it will be a memory-taxer for both.
>> When I came here a while back regarding my connection being constantly >> cut off, and other things. >> Question is: did I mention anything about the fact that my cd-rom >> player was not playing my music cd's? It didnt matter what player I >> used, I just got errors. (my default is JADaudio, followed by windows >> media player,,,, i even tried 'sound edit pro' because it too can play >> cd music.... each had its own version of an error message.)
>> And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the >> registry back 3 years fixed it?
>> Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the life >> of me remember how I fixed it. (I do remember going out and buying a >> brand new dvd/cd player because I thought my old one had bitten the >> dust, but that wasnt the problem at all.)
>> Is not much point posting the error msg's from the individual players, >> because the crux is the fact that they wont play music. (or rather, the >> information from the player is not reaching the software or ... etc) >> I am hoping that it wasnt the registry roll-back that fixed it,, dont >> really want to do that again.
>> So, here is the problem. >> I put in a music cd, and every one of my players comes up with 'error'. >> I have checked everything in 'cpl-multimedia', including 'sounds', and >> all is fine. >> Anyone know why I cant play music?
>> Havent d/loaded anything recently, Spybot says 'no probs', Avast says >> the same. I started thinking about re-installing my VIA chipset, >> but I know for sure that I never went that far before to fix the prob.
>> S/C
> Ah, presuming you are referring to the lengthy "comp keeps timing out" > (starting 21/08/05, ending around 15/09/05) discussion:
OOPS, dates are wrong, should be 21/08/09, ending around 15/09/09.
> NO, you didn't mention the CD player issue IIRC. > Since that discussion revolved around your history of hacks, trojans, > and other malware *WITHOUT a firewall and Anti-V program that provided > the protection you need*; your roll back to the 3 year old malware free > [or supposedly] registry (due to your 3 year old prior hacked system > which you exposed in that discussion, the reason for the save of a 3 > year old registry) likely fixed the issue. That does NOT mean you are > free of hacks/malware, nor does it mean your system was returned to a > pristine usable state. You MAY have hacked system files or some other > malicious activity STILL occurring. In fact, you never indicated whether > you even installed a firewall to protect you from the local phone > lurkers and other...
> We [the three of us, meaning PCR, you, and I] avoided the > re-installation of your system, however, it appears clear you are a > PRIME candidate for complete wipe/reformat and re-install. Your system > files are outa-whack, may still include infected files, and may include > other issues since even the 3 year old roll-backed registry AND MULTIPLY > hacked system MAY still have included malware entries or other issues.
> You are limping along with a system begging to crash and cause errors, > might be time to actually fix it.
> I have a question to ask, and it will be a memory-taxer for both.
It isn't as far back as Phillipson presumes, but I'm afraid he's right anyhow -- I don't remember any details! However, looking back, I see you had two separate threads about two different computers. I was in the other one. The one about the CD was a dual-boot machine & had nothing to do with reverting to a 2-year old registry...
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:28:51 +0930 From: square/circle <n...@line.org> Subject: Nuking Xp and 98SE from a machine
I stayed out of that one due to the XP-irradiation!
> When I came here a while back regarding my connection being constantly > cut off, and other things. > Question is: did I mention anything about the fact that my cd-rom > player was not playing my music cd's? It didnt matter what player I > used, I just got errors. (my default is JADaudio, followed by windows > media player,,,, i even tried 'sound edit pro' because it too can > play cd music.... each had its own version of an error message.)
> And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the > registry back 3 years fixed it?
I think it was only two years & on a different machine.
> Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the life > of me remember how I fixed it. (I do remember going out and buying a > brand new dvd/cd player because I thought my old one had bitten the > dust, but that wasnt the problem at all.)
> Is not much point posting the error msg's from the individual players, > because the crux is the fact that they wont play music. (or rather, > the information from the player is not reaching the software or ... > etc) > I am hoping that it wasnt the registry roll-back that fixed it,, dont > really want to do that again.
Was it fixed? Looks like you did get sound on Buffalo's advice -- but you weren't completely happy. "it simply sounds like crap. no volume at all, and nowhere to adjust anything", you said.
> So, here is the problem. > I put in a music cd, and every one of my players comes up with > 'error'. I have checked everything in 'cpl-multimedia', including > 'sounds', and all is fine. > Anyone know why I cant play music?
> Havent d/loaded anything recently, Spybot says 'no probs', Avast > says the same. I started thinking about re-installing my VIA > chipset, but I know for sure that I never went that far before to fix > the prob.
You don't actually say in that thread what you did, but you were responding to Buffalo's good advice. Start with that again. Re-read the thread, & it may jog your memory.
> S/C
-- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcr...@netzero.net
>> And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the >> registry back 3 years fixed it?
>> Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the life >> of me remember how I fixed it.
> Not even the busiest body can be expected to remember one > particular successful repair from three years ago among dozens > or scores of unrelated cases.
> If you and I do not keep written records of hardware and > software changes to our own systems no one else will. > (Big Brother might indeed be watching, but we cannot > be sure of his help when we need it.)
HEllo,,
No, it wasnt a repair from 3 years ago, its just that I wound back my registry to about 3 years ago due to other issues I was having. But, at that same time that I wound it back, I was talking to Meb and PCR about some other problems I had.. Either way, my cd player still wont play music c/d's... and I'm damned if I know why?? One day I'm playing music, the next day I'm not. I have checked everything known to me, including bios, but nothing looks out of whack. I even bought a brand new player (cd/dvd) about 3 months ago hoping that would solve the problem, and, at first it didnt, but then, I must have done something that actually made it work; and it has worked ever since, right up until I posted this thread asking pcr or meb if they remembered whether I was having this problem at the same time as the other problem.. I do recall fixing it, but I am dumbfounded as to what I did.
PCR wrote: > square/circle wrote: >> Hi good ppl,,,
>> I have a question to ask, and it will be a memory-taxer for both.
> It isn't as far back as Phillipson presumes, but I'm afraid he's right > anyhow -- I don't remember any details! However, looking back, I see you > had two separate threads about two different computers. I was in the > other one. The one about the CD was a dual-boot machine & had nothing to > do with reverting to a 2-year old registry...
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:28:51 +0930 > From: square/circle <n...@line.org> > Subject: Nuking Xp and 98SE from a machine
> I stayed out of that one due to the XP-irradiation!
>> When I came here a while back regarding my connection being constantly >> cut off, and other things. >> Question is: did I mention anything about the fact that my cd-rom >> player was not playing my music cd's? It didnt matter what player I >> used, I just got errors. (my default is JADaudio, followed by windows >> media player,,,, i even tried 'sound edit pro' because it too can >> play cd music.... each had its own version of an error message.)
>> And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the >> registry back 3 years fixed it?
> I think it was only two years & on a different machine.
>> Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the life >> of me remember how I fixed it. (I do remember going out and buying a >> brand new dvd/cd player because I thought my old one had bitten the >> dust, but that wasnt the problem at all.)
>> Is not much point posting the error msg's from the individual players, >> because the crux is the fact that they wont play music. (or rather, >> the information from the player is not reaching the software or ... >> etc) >> I am hoping that it wasnt the registry roll-back that fixed it,, dont >> really want to do that again.
> Was it fixed? Looks like you did get sound on Buffalo's advice -- but > you weren't completely happy. "it simply sounds like crap. no volume at > all, and nowhere to adjust anything", you said.
>> So, here is the problem. >> I put in a music cd, and every one of my players comes up with >> 'error'. I have checked everything in 'cpl-multimedia', including >> 'sounds', and all is fine. >> Anyone know why I cant play music?
>> Havent d/loaded anything recently, Spybot says 'no probs', Avast >> says the same. I started thinking about re-installing my VIA >> chipset, but I know for sure that I never went that far before to fix >> the prob.
> You don't actually say in that thread what you did, but you were > responding to Buffalo's good advice. Start with that again. Re-read the > thread, & it may jog your memory.
>> S/C
Hi PCR......
Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom radiation) I was having some sound problems with a computer I am/was sorta building as a back-up to this one..... but right now, its this one that wont play-back a music c/d.
I had this problem about 3 months ago, and because I couldnt fix it, I presumed it was the actually player itself, so, went out and bought a new one. When I hooked it up, it too didnt work.... (straight away I realised I had wasted my time and money buying an new one.... sigh.) Anyhow, Something I did, (or was it the hammer I used) seemed to have fixed it, and for the life of me I cant remember what it was. Why the problem has now re-presented itself I dont know... but it has.
Sort of brings me to another question of which is relevant. After realising I couldnt find the problem via windows, I went looking in the bios to make sure that the on-board sound was activated in all areas, and my Question is::: >> "on a dual boot machine, and after hitting 'del' to get to the bios, am I in the bios of 98se or the bios of the other o/s??
Anyway, the friggin' player wont play... any suggestions?
S/C
(ps, the modem problem has gotten worse, am constantly booted off even after 10-15 minutes. am in the middle of sorta signing up for b/band hoping this might solve the problem. sure was hoping that that modem guy in this group could have resolved it, but it never came to pass.)
square/circle wrote: > PCR wrote: >> square/circle wrote: >>> Hi good ppl,,,
>>> I have a question to ask, and it will be a memory-taxer for both.
>> It isn't as far back as Phillipson presumes, but I'm afraid he's >> right anyhow -- I don't remember any details! However, looking back, >> I see you had two separate threads about two different computers. I >> was in the other one. The one about the CD was a dual-boot machine & >> had nothing to do with reverting to a 2-year old registry...
>> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:28:51 +0930 >> From: square/circle <n...@line.org> >> Subject: Nuking Xp and 98SE from a machine
>> I stayed out of that one due to the XP-irradiation!
>>> When I came here a while back regarding my connection being >>> constantly cut off, and other things. >>> Question is: did I mention anything about the fact that my cd-rom >>> player was not playing my music cd's? It didnt matter what player >>> I used, I just got errors. (my default is JADaudio, followed by >>> windows media player,,,, i even tried 'sound edit pro' because it >>> too can play cd music.... each had its own version of an error >>> message.)
>>> And, if I did mention it, do you guys remember if me winding the >>> registry back 3 years fixed it?
>> I think it was only two years & on a different machine.
>>> Thing is, it started doing it again yesterday, and I cant for the >>> life of me remember how I fixed it. (I do remember going out and >>> buying a brand new dvd/cd player because I thought my old one had >>> bitten the dust, but that wasnt the problem at all.)
>>> Is not much point posting the error msg's from the individual >>> players, because the crux is the fact that they wont play music. >>> (or rather, the information from the player is not reaching the >>> software or ... etc) >>> I am hoping that it wasnt the registry roll-back that fixed it,, >>> dont really want to do that again.
>> Was it fixed? Looks like you did get sound on Buffalo's advice -- >> but you weren't completely happy. "it simply sounds like crap. no >> volume at all, and nowhere to adjust anything", you said.
>>> So, here is the problem. >>> I put in a music cd, and every one of my players comes up with >>> 'error'. I have checked everything in 'cpl-multimedia', including >>> 'sounds', and all is fine. >>> Anyone know why I cant play music?
>>> Havent d/loaded anything recently, Spybot says 'no probs', Avast >>> says the same. I started thinking about re-installing my VIA >>> chipset, but I know for sure that I never went that far before to >>> fix the prob.
>> You don't actually say in that thread what you did, but you were >> responding to Buffalo's good advice. Start with that again. Re-read >> the thread, & it may jog your memory.
>>> S/C
> Hi PCR......
> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom radiation)
I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista irradiation I hate the most!
> I was having some sound problems with a computer I am/was sorta > building as a back-up to this one..... but right now, its this > one that wont play-back a music c/d.
> I had this problem about 3 months ago, and because I couldnt fix it, I > presumed it was the actually player itself, so, went out and bought a > new one. > When I hooked it up, it too didnt work.... (straight away I > realised I had wasted my time and money buying an new one.... sigh.) > Anyhow, Something I did, (or was it the hammer I used) seemed to have > fixed it, and for the life of me I cant remember what it was. > Why the problem has now re-presented itself I dont know... but it has.
> Sort of brings me to another question of which is relevant. > After realising I couldnt find the problem via windows, I went looking > in the bios to make sure that the on-board sound was activated in all > areas, and my Question is::: >> "on a dual boot machine, and after > hitting 'del' to get to the bios, am I in the bios of 98se or the bios > of the other o/s??
BIOS is on a chip in the computer, (though I've read here sometimes a file on the hard drive can suplement it). Therefore, BIOS is normally the same for both OS. But each OS may interact with BIOS in a different way; for instance, it can be set to ignore BIOS settings or devices that BIOS presents to it.
> Anyway, the friggin' player wont play... any suggestions?
You better start a new thread & be specific on what your settings are, what the software is, & what you have tried so far -- be specific! If two OS's won't play music on the CD-ROM... either the BIOS settings are bad (they share that), the device is bad (but you've tried two?), or maybe you're not playing a music CD. Does the CD play music on another machine?
(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.) (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab". (3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking its plus sign. (4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove". (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".) (5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all will be well.
Also... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;130179&Produc... Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks (130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows that one or more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS Compatibility mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for the file system or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
> S/C
> (ps, the modem problem has gotten worse, am constantly booted off even > after 10-15 minutes. am in the middle of sorta signing up for b/band > hoping this might solve the problem. sure was hoping that that > modem guy in this group could have resolved it, but it never came to > pass.)
That's the thing that was fixed with the registry restore. I thought you preserved the two year old registry in a separate directory in case this happened again!
-- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcr...@netzero.net
>> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom radiation)
> I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista irradiation > I hate the most!
Ditto..... and I see also that Micro's internal radiation turned around and bit em' on the bum,, as Vista was/is/and has become a disaster.. you have no idea how much 'they' are pumping advertising of windows 7 here in OZ. Every electrical dealership and etc is thumping our brains with win7;; but only numb-nuts will listen,, sigh, there are lots of numb-nuts in oz. (they even cut short punch-lines during 'two n' a half men' in order to switch to an advert for win7... they are killing telly viewing.)
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> BIOS is on a chip in the computer, (though I've read here sometimes a > file on the hard drive can suplement it). Therefore, BIOS is normally > the same for both OS. But each OS may interact with BIOS in a different > way; for instance, it can be set to ignore BIOS settings or devices that > BIOS presents to it.
>> Anyway, the friggin' player wont play... any suggestions?
> You better start a new thread & be specific on what your settings are, > what the software is, & what you have tried so far -- be specific! If > two OS's won't play music on the CD-ROM... either the BIOS settings are > bad (they share that), the device is bad (but you've tried two?), or > maybe you're not playing a music CD. Does the CD play music on another > machine?
> (1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL for the > Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.) > (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab". > (3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking its plus sign. > (4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove". > (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".) > (5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
> Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all will be well.
> As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System, Performance tab". Are you > in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site... > http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
> Also... > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;130179&Produc... > Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks > (130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows that one or > more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS Compatibility > mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for the file system > or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>> S/C
>> (ps, the modem problem has gotten worse, am constantly booted off even >> after 10-15 minutes. am in the middle of sorta signing up for b/band >> hoping this might solve the problem. sure was hoping that that >> modem guy in this group could have resolved it, but it never came to >> pass.)
> That's the thing that was fixed with the registry restore. I thought you > preserved the two year old registry in a separate directory in case this > happened again!
------------- Yes,,,,, have still got that Registry file stashed... was just hoping I wouldnt have to use it again as I had to do so many adjustments afterward. (like re-making d/top how it was, reinstating password for isp, and etc etc etc; it was a chore.)(oh, btw, I was making a search in the registry yesterday regarding the "applog" folder, which can get clogged up sometimes.... when all of a sudden I kept finding entries from the ukraine and heaps of other baltic countries??? will talk about this with you later.)
Okay, I will start a new thread, and try to tell all, while keeping it short and to the point.(about the c/d player not playing,, maybe start another thread later about the registry entries, cos' there is more to tell.)(and you already know that I know squat about the registry,, cept that I will go in there, but I Wont touch anything except for doing perhaps a search... damn, I wish I wasnt so scared of the registry.)
>>> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom radiation)
>> I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista irradiation >> I hate the most!
> Ditto..... and I see also that Micro's internal radiation turned > around and bit em' on the bum,, as Vista was/is/and has become a > disaster.. you have no idea how much 'they' are pumping advertising of > windows 7 here in OZ. Every electrical dealership and etc is thumping > our brains with win7;; but only numb-nuts will listen,, sigh, there > are lots of numb-nuts in oz. (they even cut short punch-lines during > 'two n' a half men' in order to switch to an advert for win7... they are > killing telly viewing.)
> ----------------
>> BIOS is on a chip in the computer, (though I've read here sometimes a >> file on the hard drive can suplement it). Therefore, BIOS is normally >> the same for both OS. But each OS may interact with BIOS in a different >> way; for instance, it can be set to ignore BIOS settings or devices that >> BIOS presents to it.
> Okay,, I understand that,, ta for info.
> ---------------
>>> Anyway, the friggin' player wont play... any suggestions?
>> You better start a new thread & be specific on what your settings are, >> what the software is, & what you have tried so far -- be specific! If >> two OS's won't play music on the CD-ROM... either the BIOS settings are >> bad (they share that), the device is bad (but you've tried two?), or >> maybe you're not playing a music CD. Does the CD play music on another >> machine?
>> (1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL for the >> Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.) >> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab". >> (3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking its plus sign. >> (4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove". >> (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".) >> (5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
>> Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all will be well.
>> As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System, Performance tab". Are you >> in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site... >> http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
>> Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks >> (130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows that one or >> more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS Compatibility >> mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for the file system >> or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>>> S/C
>>> (ps, the modem problem has gotten worse, am constantly booted off even >>> after 10-15 minutes. am in the middle of sorta signing up for b/band >>> hoping this might solve the problem. sure was hoping that that >>> modem guy in this group could have resolved it, but it never came to >>> pass.)
>> That's the thing that was fixed with the registry restore. I thought you >> preserved the two year old registry in a separate directory in case this >> happened again!
> ------------- > Yes,,,,, have still got that Registry file stashed... was just > hoping I wouldnt have to use it again as I had to do so many adjustments > afterward. (like re-making d/top how it was, reinstating password for > isp, and etc etc etc; it was a chore.)(oh, btw, I was making a search > in the registry yesterday regarding the "applog" folder, which can get > clogged up sometimes.... when all of a sudden I kept finding entries > from the ukraine and heaps of other baltic countries??? will talk about > this with you later.)
> Okay, I will start a new thread, and try to tell all, while keeping it > short and to the point.(about the c/d player not playing,, maybe start > another thread later about the registry entries, cos' there is more to > tell.)(and you already know that I know squat about the registry,, cept > that I will go in there, but I Wont touch anything except for doing > perhaps a search... damn, I wish I wasnt so scared of the registry.)
> Thanks PCR, just for still being here.
> S/C
Both of us [per the heading] are still here. In fact, I'm having difficulty NOT posting; but I think you know what I would post anyway, since it revolves around the same matters attended too on several prior occasions.
But PLEASE don't respond *here*. Start the new properly headed discussions with a summary of background activities in case someone isn't familiar with the prior matters [such as the DNS re-directions]. Make sure to outline the specific hacks that were used in your on-going registry/system issues, and what was done to correct the issues. Include anything you have done recently to correct and/or discover and/or clean the system.
This/these issue(s) is/are far more important than the CD issue, which may be affected by the activity which needs addressed FIRST. In fact, all of these activities you are attempting to discuss here in this thread may be part of on-going activities by others from the out-side or what is within your system at present.
>>> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom >>> radiation)
>> I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista >> irradiation I hate the most!
> Ditto..... and I see also that Micro's internal radiation turned > around and bit em' on the bum,, as Vista was/is/and has become a > disaster.. you have no idea how much 'they' are pumping advertising > of windows 7 here in OZ. Every electrical dealership and etc is > thumping our brains with win7;; but only numb-nuts will listen,, > sigh, there are lots of numb-nuts in oz. (they even cut short > punch-lines during 'two n' a half men' in order to switch to an > advert for win7... they are killing telly viewing.)
That's pretty nasty of MS to do that! But I'm not quite ready to denounce Win7 yet, as I haven't counted as many bubbling earlobes & lower lips fallen yet on mushy feet & purple toes. But I've only begun to count!
> ----------------
>> BIOS is on a chip in the computer, (though I've read here sometimes a >> file on the hard drive can suplement it). Therefore, BIOS is normally >> the same for both OS. But each OS may interact with BIOS in a >> different way; for instance, it can be set to ignore BIOS settings >> or devices that BIOS presents to it.
>>> Anyway, the friggin' player wont play... any suggestions?
>> You better start a new thread & be specific on what your settings >> are, what the software is, & what you have tried so far -- be >> specific! If two OS's won't play music on the CD-ROM... either the >> BIOS settings are bad (they share that), the device is bad (but >> you've tried two?), or maybe you're not playing a music CD. Does the >> CD play music on another machine?
>> (1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL for the >> Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.) >> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab". >> (3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking its plus sign. >> (4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove". >> (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".) >> (5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
>> Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all will be well.
>> As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System, Performance tab". Are >> you in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site... >> http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
>> Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks >> (130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows that one or >> more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS Compatibility >> mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for the file >> system or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>>> S/C
>>> (ps, the modem problem has gotten worse, am constantly booted off >>> even after 10-15 minutes. am in the middle of sorta signing up >>> for b/band hoping this might solve the problem. sure was hoping >>> that that modem guy in this group could have resolved it, but it >>> never came to pass.)
>> That's the thing that was fixed with the registry restore. I thought >> you preserved the two year old registry in a separate directory in >> case this happened again!
> ------------- > Yes,,,,, have still got that Registry file stashed... was just > hoping I wouldnt have to use it again as I had to do so many > adjustments afterward. (like re-making d/top how it was, reinstating > password for isp, and etc etc etc; it was a chore.)
You should find a way to make a full system backup, not just the registry.
> (oh, btw, I was > making a search in the registry yesterday regarding the "applog" > folder, which can get clogged up sometimes.... when all of a > sudden I kept finding entries from the ukraine and heaps of other > baltic countries??? will talk about this with you later.)
OK. That sounds suspicious! The only mention I have of Ukraine is...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Telephony\ Country List\380] "CountryCode"=dword:0000017c "Name"="Ukraine" "SameAreaRule"="G" "LongDistanceRule"=" 8WFG" "InternationalRule"="8W10EFG"
If you are speaking of that registry key, all is well -- it's normal!
> Okay, I will start a new thread, and try to tell all, while keeping it > short and to the point.(about the c/d player not playing,, maybe start > another thread later about the registry entries, cos' there is more to > tell.)(and you already know that I know squat about the registry,, > cept that I will go in there, but I Wont touch anything except for > doing perhaps a search... damn, I wish I wasnt so scared of the > registry.)
> Thanks PCR, just for still being here.
You are welcome. I'll look for the thread.
> S/C
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> But PLEASE don't respond *here*. Start the new properly headed > discussions with a summary of background activities in case someone > isn't familiar with the prior matters [such as the DNS re-directions]. > Make sure to outline the specific hacks that were used in your on-going > registry/system issues, and what was done to correct the issues. Include > anything you have done recently to correct and/or discover and/or clean > the system.
I am trying my best meb.. truely I am. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to puters, but I'm giving it my best shot. (Was bloody good at my trade tho'. one of the best so I'm told, which means 'everyone is good at something, and others better than some')
I started a thread regarding my player not playing c/d's, but so far all I've got is 's**t' from 'toid'. No helpful info at all. (but I did 'offer' him some info'... and an invite)(just to let him know how friendly oz ppl are.)
> This/these issue(s) is/are far more important than the CD issue, which > may be affected by the activity which needs addressed FIRST. In fact, > all of these activities you are attempting to discuss here in this > thread may be part of on-going activities by others from the out-side or > what is within your system at present.
Right now... and regarding bloody modem problem, I am considering going b/band and changing my isp/email addy and starting from scratch. I had hoped that zabcar (hope thats his first name as I dont mean to call him by his second) could have fixed things, seeing as how everyone said he was a whiz at modems, but it never eventuated.
This whole thing has become tiresome, and the only thing I want right now is to be able to play music via my c/d player.... simple huh?
PCR wrote: > square/circle wrote: >>>> Hi PCR......
>>>> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom >>>> radiation) >>> I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista >>> irradiation I hate the most! >> Ditto..... and I see also that Micro's internal radiation turned >> around and bit em' on the bum,, as Vista was/is/and has become a >> disaster.. you have no idea how much 'they' are pumping advertising >> of windows 7 here in OZ. Every electrical dealership and etc is >> thumping our brains with win7;; but only numb-nuts will listen,, >> sigh, there are lots of numb-nuts in oz. (they even cut short >> punch-lines during 'two n' a half men' in order to switch to an >> advert for win7... they are killing telly viewing.)
> That's pretty nasty of MS to do that! But I'm not quite ready to > denounce Win7 yet, as I haven't counted as many bubbling earlobes & > lower lips fallen yet on mushy feet & purple toes. But I've only begun > to count!
Good for you PCR.... sit back and enjoy and watch. Its got me beat why idiots always think that 'newer is better', and then simply reach into their back pockets to reveal their wallets... sheesh, they may as well just un-button their pants then reach around and stretch their cheeks,,,,, AutoCad does the exact same thing..... they bring out newer versions that dont assist anyone in any form or manner.... tis all about bending over and revealing.
> If you are speaking of that registry key, all is well -- it's normal!
>> Okay, I will start a new thread, and try to tell all, while keeping it >> short and to the point.(about the c/d player not playing,, maybe start >> another thread later about the registry entries, cos' there is more to >> tell.)(and you already know that I know squat about the registry,, >> cept that I will go in there, but I Wont touch anything except for >> doing perhaps a search... damn, I wish I wasnt so scared of the >> registry.)
>> Thanks PCR, just for still being here.
> You are welcome. I'll look for the thread.
>> S/C
Thanks PCR...(hee hee, every time I type that it always reminds me of the beatles movie 'Yellow Submarine'.... and the Abbey Road album)
I have posted and started a new thread, but so far I dont have much help offered..... but I did have an 'offer' from a 'toid',, so I invited him over for a BBQ.. hope he accepts.
Got me stumped PCR as to why the player and the software arent melding? As already mentioned, the player is only a few months old and worked fine whether prior to roll-back of registry or even after the roll-back? It truely has me stumped. Worse part is, I know deep down that when it happened once before, I managed to find a fix for it, whether ticking a certain box or even un-ticking a certain box, but am buggered if I remember what I did.
Anyhow,, I've posted a new thread as you said,,, and have also had replies and also replied to replies.. hope to see you there soon.
>> But PLEASE don't respond *here*. Start the new properly headed >> discussions with a summary of background activities in case someone >> isn't familiar with the prior matters [such as the DNS re-directions]. >> Make sure to outline the specific hacks that were used in your on-going >> registry/system issues, and what was done to correct the issues. Include >> anything you have done recently to correct and/or discover and/or clean >> the system.
> I am trying my best meb.. truely I am. I may not be the sharpest > knife in the drawer when it comes to puters, but I'm giving it my best > shot. (Was bloody good at my trade tho'. one of the best so I'm told, > which means 'everyone is good at something, and others better than some')
Okay, there is no attack from me [in fact, you remind me of another who used to post in here for a few years].. just constant direction to what *needs* addressed... though I'm not going to post in the CD discussion, its not what needs done.
> I started a thread regarding my player not playing c/d's, but so far all > I've got is 's**t' from 'toid'. No helpful info at all. (but I did > 'offer' him some info'... and an invite)(just to let him know how > friendly oz ppl are.)
Okay, what you see is the normal stuff going on in the group nowadays. Ignore it for the most part, its a battle which can become quite heated and generally leads nowhere unless there is an underlaying factual issue at play, and I think the reference relates more towards your handling of other issues [the hacks and stuff] which you are ignoring, while keying on secondary issues [the CD] {see the quoted below}.
>> This/these issue(s) is/are far more important than the CD issue, which >> may be affected by the activity which needs addressed FIRST. In fact, >> all of these activities you are attempting to discuss here in this >> thread may be part of on-going activities by others from the out-side or >> what is within your system at present.
> Right now... and regarding bloody modem problem, I am considering going > b/band and changing my isp/email addy and starting from scratch. > I had hoped that zabcar (hope thats his first name as I dont mean to > call him by his second) could have fixed things, seeing as how everyone > said he was a whiz at modems, but it never eventuated.
> This whole thing has become tiresome, and the only thing I want right > now is to be able to play music via my c/d player.... simple huh?
> S/C
His name/handle is Franc, and he is a really good party for modems/devices, debug stuff, and several other areas. He prowls the coding and other like forums... and it isn't JUST a modem issue, it *IS* what is going on THROUGH the modem connection. Changing to xDSL/other will likely not correct your most important issue, the present state of the system itself. You may have false codex, converters, and who knows what else... these issues *need* attended to before any other issues. So your "simple huh" issue isn't really so. And no attack on PCR intended [I think PCR supplies a very necessary part here], but PCR loves to chat in long round-about discussions. Useful at times to address recalcitrant users, or some missed issue or a technical aspect perhaps; but it has infuriated several in the group at times [and particularly several no longer posting here].
> PCR wrote: >> square/circle wrote: > Good for you PCR.... sit back and enjoy and watch. Its > got me beat why idiots always think that 'newer is better', > and then simply reach into their back pockets to reveal > their wallets...
While I fully agree with you, most consumeroids buying new $3,000 systems could not do much with a 15-year old word processor if you paid them to, but you lack basic understanding of human psychology and of marketing... in fact, I am surprised you aren't one of them - maybe spending too much money on Foster's? - because the day when all you have to do is tell the computer (in proper English of course, might be a bit of a challenge...) what you want done and then wait about a minute and have it fall into the tray underneath like a can of Coke or a candy bar is quite a few years away yet...
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> Thanks PCR...(hee hee, every time I type that it always > reminds me of the beatles movie 'Yellow Submarine'.... and > the Abbey Road album)
By the time the Beatles were on the label, Parlophone album numbers started with PMC for mono and PCS for stereo, at least in most of the civilized countries of the world, which may or may not include Australia - I've never been there.
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-- There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives and those that will break later. - Chuck Armstrong
>And no attack on PCR intended [I think PCR supplies a > very necessary part here], but PCR loves to chat in long round-about > discussions. Useful at times to address recalcitrant users, or some > missed issue or a technical aspect perhaps; but it has infuriated > several in the group at times [and particularly several no longer > posting here].
I was doing XP-irradiatory experiments on them & lost the key!
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>>>>> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom >>>>> radiation) >>>> I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista >>>> irradiation I hate the most! >>> Ditto..... and I see also that Micro's internal radiation turned >>> around and bit em' on the bum,, as Vista was/is/and has become a >>> disaster.. you have no idea how much 'they' are pumping >>> advertising of windows 7 here in OZ. Every electrical dealership >>> and etc is thumping our brains with win7;; but only numb-nuts >>> will listen,, sigh, there are lots of numb-nuts in oz. (they even >>> cut short punch-lines during 'two n' a half men' in order to switch >>> to an advert for win7... they are killing telly viewing.)
>> That's pretty nasty of MS to do that! But I'm not quite ready to >> denounce Win7 yet, as I haven't counted as many bubbling earlobes & >> lower lips fallen yet on mushy feet & purple toes. But I've only >> begun to count!
> Good for you PCR.... sit back and enjoy and watch. Its got me beat > why idiots always think that 'newer is better', and then simply reach > into their back pockets to reveal their wallets... sheesh, they may > as well just un-button their pants then reach around and stretch their > cheeks,,,,, AutoCad does the exact same thing..... they bring out > newer versions that dont assist anyone in any form or manner.... tis > all about bending over and revealing.
I will continue to resist XP/Vista/Win7 until I've seen what happens to the others who have converted &/or dual-booted. So far the irradiation of newer systems has gotten exponentially worse, but Win7 deserves a count of the fallen of its own. Also, this Win98SE continues to plod on even as the peripherals have crumbled to dust around it. So, I'm in no hurry.
>> If you are speaking of that registry key, all is well -- it's normal!
>>> Okay, I will start a new thread, and try to tell all, while keeping >>> it short and to the point.(about the c/d player not playing,, maybe >>> start another thread later about the registry entries, cos' there >>> is more to tell.)(and you already know that I know squat about the >>> registry,, cept that I will go in there, but I Wont touch anything >>> except for doing perhaps a search... damn, I wish I wasnt so >>> scared of the registry.)
>>> Thanks PCR, just for still being here.
>> You are welcome. I'll look for the thread.
>>> S/C
> Thanks PCR...(hee hee, every time I type that it always reminds me of > the beatles movie 'Yellow Submarine'.... and the Abbey Road album)
You are welcome.
> I have posted and started a new thread, but so far I dont have much > help offered..... but I did have an 'offer' from a 'toid',, so I > invited him over for a BBQ.. hope he accepts.
All right. I'm back. I'll try to help if I can when I find it.
> Got me stumped PCR as to why the player and the software arent > melding? As already mentioned, the player is only a few months old > and worked fine whether prior to roll-back of registry or even after > the roll-back? It truely has me stumped. > Worse part is, I know deep down that when it happened once before, I > managed to find a fix for it, whether ticking a certain box or even > un-ticking a certain box, but am buggered if I remember what I did.
> Anyhow,, I've posted a new thread as you said,,, and have also had > replies and also replied to replies.. hope to see you there soon.
I'll look for it.
> S/C
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>>>>>> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom >>>>>> radiation) >>>>> I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista >>>>> irradiation I hate the most! >>>> Ditto..... and I see also that Micro's internal radiation turned >>>> around and bit em' on the bum,, as Vista was/is/and has become a >>>> disaster.. you have no idea how much 'they' are pumping >>>> advertising of windows 7 here in OZ. Every electrical dealership >>>> and etc is thumping our brains with win7;; but only numb-nuts >>>> will listen,, sigh, there are lots of numb-nuts in oz. (they even >>>> cut short punch-lines during 'two n' a half men' in order to switch >>>> to an advert for win7... they are killing telly viewing.)
>>> That's pretty nasty of MS to do that! But I'm not quite ready to >>> denounce Win7 yet, as I haven't counted as many bubbling earlobes & >>> lower lips fallen yet on mushy feet & purple toes. But I've only >>> begun to count!
>> Good for you PCR.... sit back and enjoy and watch. Its got me beat >> why idiots always think that 'newer is better', and then simply reach >> into their back pockets to reveal their wallets... sheesh, they may >> as well just un-button their pants then reach around and stretch their >> cheeks,,,,, AutoCad does the exact same thing..... they bring out >> newer versions that dont assist anyone in any form or manner.... tis >> all about bending over and revealing.
> I will continue to resist XP/Vista/Win7 until I've seen what happens to > the others who have converted &/or dual-booted. So far the irradiation > of newer systems has gotten exponentially worse, but Win7 deserves a > count of the fallen of its own. Also, this Win98SE continues to plod on > even as the peripherals have crumbled to dust around it. So, I'm in no > hurry.
Once you go to XP, you likely won't find much use for 98SE, anymore, unless you want to use DOS too. I'm not using mine much anymore, though.
Well, I should add this: AFTER you have spent a few days customizing it, that is. And especially getting rid of its stupid default Start Menu, and making it just like the good ole, Win98 one. :-)
And then the blue screens.....they just fade away, for the most part. And become a thing of the past for the most part. :-)
I won't even discuss Vista or Win7 here. Thanks, but no thanks. Too much bloat, and too demanding on hardware.
> ....snip >> And no attack on PCR intended [I think PCR supplies a >> very necessary part here], but PCR loves to chat in long round-about >> discussions. Useful at times to address recalcitrant users, or some >> missed issue or a technical aspect perhaps; but it has infuriated >> several in the group at times [and particularly several no longer >> posting here].
> I was doing XP-irradiatory experiments on them & lost the key!
I THOUGHT SO... they did turn a little purple in the earlobes and finger tips... might want to give em a bit of water occasionally.
Bill in Co. wrote: > PCR wrote: >> square/circle wrote: >>> PCR wrote: >>>> square/circle wrote: >>>>>>> Hi PCR......
>>>>>>> Yes, you are correct.@!! (must be cos' you stay away froom >>>>>>> radiation) >>>>>> I don't mind regular nuclear radiation -- it's just XP/Vista >>>>>> irradiation I hate the most! >>>>> Ditto..... and I see also that Micro's internal radiation turned >>>>> around and bit em' on the bum,, as Vista was/is/and has become a >>>>> disaster.. you have no idea how much 'they' are pumping >>>>> advertising of windows 7 here in OZ. Every electrical dealership >>>>> and etc is thumping our brains with win7;; but only numb-nuts >>>>> will listen,, sigh, there are lots of numb-nuts in oz. (they even >>>>> cut short punch-lines during 'two n' a half men' in order to >>>>> switch to an advert for win7... they are killing telly viewing.)
>>>> That's pretty nasty of MS to do that! But I'm not quite ready to >>>> denounce Win7 yet, as I haven't counted as many bubbling earlobes & >>>> lower lips fallen yet on mushy feet & purple toes. But I've only >>>> begun to count!
>>> Good for you PCR.... sit back and enjoy and watch. Its got me >>> beat why idiots always think that 'newer is better', and then >>> simply reach into their back pockets to reveal their wallets... >>> sheesh, they may as well just un-button their pants then reach >>> around and stretch their cheeks,,,,, AutoCad does the exact >>> same thing..... they bring out newer versions that dont assist >>> anyone in any form or manner.... tis all about bending over and >>> revealing.
>> I will continue to resist XP/Vista/Win7 until I've seen what happens >> to the others who have converted &/or dual-booted. So far the >> irradiation of newer systems has gotten exponentially worse, but >> Win7 deserves a count of the fallen of its own. Also, this Win98SE >> continues to plod on even as the peripherals have crumbled to dust >> around it. So, I'm in no hurry.
> Once you go to XP, you likely won't find much use for 98SE, anymore, > unless you want to use DOS too. I'm not using mine much anymore, > though.
> Well, I should add this: AFTER you have spent a few days > customizing it, that is. And especially getting rid of its stupid > default Start Menu, and making it just like the good ole, Win98 one. > :-)
> And then the blue screens.....they just fade away, for the most part. > And become a thing of the past for the most part. :-)
I'm not ready for it yet, but XP could be the one when the time comes. I trust your instincts & experience, Colorado, & I know not all your brains have fried & oozed out. And hopefully -- by then -- radiation suits & tinfoil hats will have doubled in effectiveness!
> I won't even discuss Vista or Win7 here. Thanks, but no thanks. > Too much bloat, and too demanding on hardware.
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>> ....snip >>> And no attack on PCR intended [I think PCR supplies a >>> very necessary part here], but PCR loves to chat in long round-about >>> discussions. Useful at times to address recalcitrant users, or some >>> missed issue or a technical aspect perhaps; but it has infuriated >>> several in the group at times [and particularly several no longer >>> posting here].
>> I was doing XP-irradiatory experiments on them & lost the key!
> I THOUGHT SO... they did turn a little purple in the earlobes and > finger tips... might want to give em a bit of water occasionally.
They've up 'n melted & made their own water!
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>>> ....snip >>>> And no attack on PCR intended [I think PCR supplies a >>>> very necessary part here], but PCR loves to chat in long round-about >>>> discussions. Useful at times to address recalcitrant users, or some >>>> missed issue or a technical aspect perhaps; but it has infuriated >>>> several in the group at times [and particularly several no longer >>>> posting here]. >>> I was doing XP-irradiatory experiments on them & lost the key!
>> I THOUGHT SO... they did turn a little purple in the earlobes and >> finger tips... might want to give em a bit of water occasionally.
> They've up 'n melted & made their own water!
oopppppsss... of course there's a never ending supply to work with, so you won't run into endangered species issues;... though someone might miss them at some time.
>>>> ....snip >>>>> And no attack on PCR intended [I think PCR supplies a >>>>> very necessary part here], but PCR loves to chat in long >>>>> round-about discussions. Useful at times to address recalcitrant >>>>> users, or some missed issue or a technical aspect perhaps; but it >>>>> has infuriated several in the group at times [and particularly >>>>> several no longer posting here]. >>>> I was doing XP-irradiatory experiments on them & lost the key!
>>> I THOUGHT SO... they did turn a little purple in the earlobes and >>> finger tips... might want to give em a bit of water occasionally.
>> They've up 'n melted & made their own water!
> oopppppsss... of course there's a never ending supply to work with, so > you won't run into endangered species issues;... though someone might > miss them at some time.
I wasn't worried about any of that. It's very important to seek a cure to XP/Vista/Win7 irradiation. But they all continue to melt!
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