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davexnet  
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 Más opciones 6 nov, 11:04
Grupos de noticias: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
De: "davexnet" <davexne...@yahoo.com>
Fecha: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:04:28 -0800
Local: Vie 6 nov 2009 11:04
Asunto: ACPI in 98se. Is it worth it ?
After running 98se on an old VIA MVP3 system for 10 years,
and it never being particularly stable, I turned off ACPI in the BIOS,
rebooted 98se and it redetected all the hardware.

System is running fine, not sure if the underlying problems have
been mitigated or not.   I never really used any power options
(eg. standby, disk sleep ) just monitor sleep.

Any other pros and cons I should be aware of?
Any other ramification of reverting to the "standard PC" ?

TIA for any info.


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De: MEB <MEB-not-h...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:50:18 -0500
Local: Vie 6 nov 2009 11:50
Asunto: Re: ACPI in 98se. Is it worth it ?

davexnet wrote:
> After running 98se on an old VIA MVP3 system for 10 years,
> and it never being particularly stable, I turned off ACPI in the BIOS,
> rebooted 98se and it redetected all the hardware.

> System is running fine, not sure if the underlying problems have
> been mitigated or not.   I never really used any power options
> (eg. standby, disk sleep ) just monitor sleep.

> Any other pros and cons I should be aware of?
> Any other ramification of reverting to the "standard PC" ?

> TIA for any info.

 Here's my opinion, others may feel otherwise.

 The implementations within older coded chipsets supposedly supporting
ACPI were generally flawed and/or limited to start with. So was the
support within most adapters and other. Unless you had one of the few
systems where everything supported full ACPI [completely] its usage
generally produced, as you noted, unstable systems to lesser or greater
extents.
 Moreover, unless you had an actual need where you have applied a
battery backup system or other, it wasn't all that useful [unless needed
for resource assignment purposes, ACPI assignments are handled somewhat
differently].

 Using standard motherboard BOIS/PCI/support seemed to produce more
stable systems. The qualifier was whether a notebook/laptop [useful and
generally required] verses a desktop [not necessarily needed].

 Your usage of monitor "sleep" does not require ACPI or APM, as that
activity is controlled in a different fashion, nor should you use any
BIOS supplied power settings related to that.
 My usual settings were no ACPI and no APM, though Win9X will attempt to
install anyway during initial setup with many boards. Those motherboards
can be forced to use a standard BIOS/motherboard by using Device Manager
in Safe Mode to remove all System Devices [after making sure BIOS
settings are off] and restarting, though all PCI/ISA devices will be
re-detected or may need re-installation of software/drivers. Make sure
you have either copied all cabs to the Windows/Options/Cabs folder and
associated that via the registry with modification, or your CD is
available, *and* you have any drivers/software you might need.
 OR, by using specific command options during initial setup.

 Of course, that's not fully supportive of "Green" activity when these
are disabled or not used.

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De: "davexnet" <davexne...@yahoo.com>
Fecha: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:57:34 -0800
Local: Vie 6 nov 2009 13:57
Asunto: Re: ACPI in 98se. Is it worth it ?

"MEB" <MEB-not-h...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:ufs0okwXKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Thanks for the info - the change was painless, I long had the \win98 install
folder
on the hard drive.  The reason I fudged with it after all this time is a
problem I couldn't
resolve in 98se, the mouse pointer would disappear at random times, followed
by the system
locking up.

It's a dual boot box, 98se and Win2k.  The settings in the bios when both
systems were installed
were acpi=on and pnpos=no.   98se installed with ACPI, while Win2k bypassed
it and installed
the "standard PC".

I just set ACPI=off and PNPOS=yes (not sure about that one) in the BIOS.
Win2k didn't react at all to these
changes, but 98se reinstalled all it's devices, and I had to manually
reinstall the video driver
to resolve a problem.  Since then 98se has not had the problem I mentioned.


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De: MEB <MEB-not-h...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:02:36 -0500
Local: Vie 6 nov 2009 21:02
Asunto: Re: ACPI in 98se. Is it worth it ?

 Yeah, setting PnP OS installed does make a difference in 9X. PnP allows
 Windows to reset some of the resources and the BIOS calls follow along.
 Non-PnP OS installed allows you to manually change the IRQs and some
resources for conflicts like sound and network adapters or the like.
Although some manual changes can be done with PnP on, Windows usually
tries to reset them.
 W2K is another "ball game" altogether.

 As for the mouse and lockup issue, too late to care now... glad it
worked out for you.

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