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Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

meb-not-h...@hotmail.com (MEB) — Sun, 22 nov 2009 03:14:43 UT

Well, that's good to know. I don't have much experience even using MACs
so all I can do is look at the available materials and wonder.
There does seem to be some complaints on slowness of updates, then
again there always is. On the other hand, looking at the comparative
vulnerabilities in other Apple applications fills in some of the blanks.

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

no...@home.net (who where) — Sun, 22 nov 2009 01:26:21 UT

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:00:04 -0800 (PST), "pixtur...@gmail.com"
98SE on a single 1G FAT32 partition? More info required. What sort
of disk manager system are you using?

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

pixtur...@gmail.com (pixturesk@gmail.com) — Sun, 22 nov 2009 01:24:18 UT

MEB. I am currently running Panther 10.3.9 on my iMac G3/400. Even if
I acquire a higher spec Mac with the Tiger install disks, the update
process is fairly automatic. After installing Tiger 10.4, usually a
screen comes up soon after offering all the updates to 10.4.11 usually
in one pack, takes awhile to install but nothing after that unless

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

meb-not-h...@hotmail.com (MEB) — Sun, 22 nov 2009 00:49:48 UT

Finer pixel count and/or different grid pattern maybe...
Yeah, older actually is sometimes better... and even with some
computers ;=}
As for Tiger 10.4.11, some stuff you may or may not want to know:
Apple Updates for Multiple Vulnerabilities
Original release date: Sep 16, 2008
[link]

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

pixtur...@gmail.com (pixturesk@gmail.com) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 23:47:23 UT

I agree, there is no Apple competition, but I am looking for a PPC not
an Intel Mac preferably to run Tiger 10.4.11 as the OS, hence the
greater security I am experiencing. I am actually writing this from my
iMac, just hooked up my IBM 19" CRT monitor to see both monitors in
action. The IBM C92 just blows away the iMac monitor away, the clarity

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

meb-not-h...@hotmail.com (MEB) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 20:16:46 UT

Then you'll likely run across information that the non-Intel based
systems were somewhat more secure since the Apple OSs were specifically
designed for it. When the change came through to Intel, the code
naturally and by necessity changed bringing more errors and potential
vulnerabilities along with the code changes.

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

pixtur...@gmail.com (pixturesk@gmail.com) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 19:45:39 UT

The only problem with the Mac is the outrageous price of new machines
probable 2-3 times more than a comparable Windows machine. That's why
I am looking for an older Mac with sufficient tech specs to enjoy what
contemporary computing has to offer. I am never in a hurry, so I will
be careful when I choose. Ken.

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

meb-not-h...@hotmail.com (MEB) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 19:28:23 UT

Well, it wasn't meant to deter usage nor discredit the long security
history of the Apple OSs, just more of an FYI type of addition due to
changing attitudes in the hacker world; *security through obscurity*
just isn't viable anymore.
The reason I asked per the potential boot manager and drive issue was

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

pixtur...@gmail.com (pixturesk@gmail.com) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 19:07:41 UT

Thanks MEB. I'll check out your links. I am just going by my fairly
non-techie experiences with my iMac G3/400. I run ClamXav, the only
free anti-virus software for the Mac, never a problem. The Panther
10.3.9 OS just seems to run problem free. I use Firefox, the Gimp,
Apple Mail, just works that's all I can say. Just want to keep all my

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

bblan...@removemagicnet.net (Bill Blanton) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 18:51:24 UT

Does your HD use a SATA interface? That could explain why Linux can
see the drive but not DOS. Perhaps "legacy mode" was somehow switched
off in the BIOS. As for your success with "Scandisk C:", that could have been
the RAMdrive that some startup disks create to hold some of the DOS tools.
If the scan was amazingly fast, then probably so. C: does not necessarily

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

pixtur...@gmail.com (pixturesk@gmail.com) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 18:53:35 UT

Brian. Out of the blue, 98SE is booting up normally again, can't
figure out why, reboots normally 4 times in a row before writing this.
My guess is that somehow when Puppy Linux has to access the "C" drive
to retrieve its settings, perhaps that returns its normal
functionality, even running the Linux partition software might have an

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

meb-not-h...@hotmail.com (MEB) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 18:48:58 UT

Couple of questions:
1. Is the partition "ACTIVE".
[related to potential manager issues]
2. Do you dual/multi boot?
3. Which boot manager are you using and version?
4. Did you recently upgrade the boot manager?
5. Did you install the boot manager to the MBR or a distinct area?
And something you may not want to hear; there are Apple/MAC malware in

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

pixtur...@gmail.com (pixturesk@gmail.com) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 18:00:04 UT

Thanks Brian. Even Norton Ghost won't see the "C" drive. However, the
1 gig settings file + bootup file for Puppy Linux are on the "C"
drive. Puppy seems to access these files perfectly, booting with all
the settings intact. Even the GParted partitioning software on Puppy
sees my "C" drive as a legit Fat 32 single partition comprising the

Re: Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

gonefis...@afarawaylake (Brian A.) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 15:41:55 UT

Have you tried booting with the Ghost disk to restore the image?
If Ghost fails to recognize the drive see:
Troubleshooting Windows 98 Startup Problems
[link]
How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
[link]

Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup

pixtur...@gmail.com (pixturesk@gmail.com) — Sat, 21 nov 2009 14:04:01 UT

For the first time ever, when I bootup 98SE, I get a "Drive not
Found", insert boot floppy then press any key, nothing happens. When I
reboot the machine with the boot floppy in it, I get the 3 possibility
error choice before the "A" prompt. either not a valid Fat32
partition, create another partition, or a virus. I just spent 3 hours